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April 17th 05, 02:02 AM
In an earlier subject, Jeppview vs. paper Jepp Plates, I was waiting
for my touch screen to arrive so I can use it to display
JeppView/FliteDeck moving map. Anyways, it arrived on last Tuesday,
and I went to airport to hook it up, and took it for a ride. And it
works! It is very sun light readable, the moving map looks great and
the touch screen control works fine.

I only went up for a short VFR flight, and did not try approaches. But
while taxiing in Chino, when ground told me to "continue on Lemma,
right on Golf, left on Delta, right on Beta, then left on ramp," I
watched my green arrow progressing on FliteDeck, anticipated every
turn, and IT WAS SO COOL!

The previous subject soon became Jepp bashing, and I think Jepp
deserves it for Jepp has been pricing itself out of GA's private
plane market for years, and my feeling is Jepp was not serious about
little guys like me. FliteDeck was a separate program from JeppView,
and it was close to $1k.

Earlier this year, I was in need of a new color moving map, but I have
NO BUDGET for the new Garmin 296; and my charts subscription is due for
renewal at the same time. My search for a moving map and charts
subscription led me to decide on JeppView/FliteDeck because it is the
most economical solution IN MY CASE. Yours might be different. And
here is why:

I already have an old Toshiba portable PC that is too slow for anything
else, so my hardware cost is zero for the PC, and $200 for the screen.
My paper charts subscription for California would have been $144, but
for $100 initial setup and $195 a year, I get computer charts and
FliteDeck moving map program. Total investment this year is about
$500, and $195 for each following years.

I know how most of you dislike Jeppesen the company, and so do I.
However, if you have been admiring the magazine ads for that moving map
on high end avionics, like Collins ProLine 21, Avidyne EX500 or UPSAT
MX-20, but cannot justify spending that kind of money for high end
avionics, take a look at JeppView/FliteDeck. With the extra PC you
already have, the same moving map could be have for a song (in aviation
signing, that is).

BTW, although I have no experience with those high price EFB computers
or monitors, it seems to me that you could have the same, or close
enough performance for a lot less money if you choice hardwares
designed for cars.

Paul Folbrecht
April 17th 05, 05:41 AM
What GPS are you using with the system and how is it connected to the
PC? USB? Bluetooth maybe?

wrote:

> In an earlier subject, Jeppview vs. paper Jepp Plates, I was waiting
> for my touch screen to arrive so I can use it to display
> JeppView/FliteDeck moving map. Anyways, it arrived on last Tuesday,
> and I went to airport to hook it up, and took it for a ride. And it
> works! It is very sun light readable, the moving map looks great and
> the touch screen control works fine.
>
> I only went up for a short VFR flight, and did not try approaches. But
> while taxiing in Chino, when ground told me to "continue on Lemma,
> right on Golf, left on Delta, right on Beta, then left on ramp," I
> watched my green arrow progressing on FliteDeck, anticipated every
> turn, and IT WAS SO COOL!
>
> The previous subject soon became Jepp bashing, and I think Jepp
> deserves it for Jepp has been pricing itself out of GA's private
> plane market for years, and my feeling is Jepp was not serious about
> little guys like me. FliteDeck was a separate program from JeppView,
> and it was close to $1k.
>
> Earlier this year, I was in need of a new color moving map, but I have
> NO BUDGET for the new Garmin 296; and my charts subscription is due for
> renewal at the same time. My search for a moving map and charts
> subscription led me to decide on JeppView/FliteDeck because it is the
> most economical solution IN MY CASE. Yours might be different. And
> here is why:
>
> I already have an old Toshiba portable PC that is too slow for anything
> else, so my hardware cost is zero for the PC, and $200 for the screen.
> My paper charts subscription for California would have been $144, but
> for $100 initial setup and $195 a year, I get computer charts and
> FliteDeck moving map program. Total investment this year is about
> $500, and $195 for each following years.
>
> I know how most of you dislike Jeppesen the company, and so do I.
> However, if you have been admiring the magazine ads for that moving map
> on high end avionics, like Collins ProLine 21, Avidyne EX500 or UPSAT
> MX-20, but cannot justify spending that kind of money for high end
> avionics, take a look at JeppView/FliteDeck. With the extra PC you
> already have, the same moving map could be have for a song (in aviation
> signing, that is).
>
> BTW, although I have no experience with those high price EFB computers
> or monitors, it seems to me that you could have the same, or close
> enough performance for a lot less money if you choice hardwares
> designed for cars.
>

April 17th 05, 04:22 PM
Paul Folbrecht wrote:
> What GPS are you using with the system and how is it connected to the

> PC? USB? Bluetooth maybe?
>

I was going to use the Apollo Procedure that I already have in the
plane, but it does not have USB & my portable does not have serial. I
ended up using a Holux GM-210 GPS from a friend who brought it for a
project but never finish. They are available for about $60. I could
have buy a USB-serial converter for about $10, but the GPS was free!

I might connect FliteMap to my Trimble Approach 2000 panel mount GPS
later. The advantage of that is FliteMap can pickup flight plan from
Trimble so I do not need to reenter flight plan. But the down side is
when my Trimble failed, FliteMap would stop function as a moving map;
it still display maps & charts but no moving green arrow to show your
location.

April 18th 05, 03:02 AM
wrote elsewhere on this group, but I think it is for
this subject:

>But, what about all the external wiring required and where do you
place the
>laptop?
>
>And, what is this about an external display?

The external wiring is messy, but managable since I fly my own and do
not need to remove all wiring after each flight. I placed my laptop in
the back of passenger seat.

The point of an external display is that 1. it is very small w/o
keyboard and much easier to mount than a laptop, 2. it is sun light
readable (most laptops are not), 3. it is touch screen and FliteDeck
could be used with touch screen only, 4. it is much cheaper than a
tablet PC, cheaper than ..... (you get the idea).

max
April 18th 05, 07:22 AM
Which external display are you using? I searched for the T-700TS you
mentioned in an earlier post and that one only seems to go to 800x600
max resolution. Can flightDeck (3.0) run at that resolution? If so
that's an amazing value for the display!

wrote:
> The point of an external display is that 1. it is very small w/o
> keyboard and much easier to mount than a laptop, 2. it is sun light
> readable (most laptops are not), 3. it is touch screen and FliteDeck
> could be used with touch screen only, 4. it is much cheaper than a
> tablet PC, cheaper than ..... (you get the idea).

April 18th 05, 10:05 PM
max wrote:
> Which external display are you using? I searched for the T-700TS you
> mentioned in an earlier post and that one only seems to go to 800x600
> max resolution. Can flightDeck (3.0) run at that resolution? If so
> that's an amazing value for the display!

I am using Tview T-700TS and FliteDeck does support 800x600. My only
complaint about Tview T-700TS is that it is sized to be 16:9, thus at
800x600, everything is a little wider & shorter. But for $200, I can
live with it.

If you are willing to spend a little more, there are 8.5 & 10.4 touch
screens available that are sized to be 4:3. I might do just that next
year, and retire the T-700TS for my Toyota truck.

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